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Discourse 5
Just To Relax on the River
Just To Relax on the River
23 December 1987 pm in Gautam the Buddha Auditorium
Question 1
BELOVED MASTER,
WHEN I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE HERE FOR US AND WE
ARE HERE FOR YOU, I WAS SO TOUCHED BY THE SIMPLICITY
AND THE TRUTH OF IT. IT WENT TO MY HEART LIKE AN ARROW.
OH BELOVED MASTER, IT’S ALL SO DEEP.
Prem Jivan, truth is the most obvious and the most simple thing in
existence. This has created tremendous difficulty – the mind is not
interested in the obvious. The mind is not excited by the simple,
because deep down mind is nothing but your ego, and the
nourishment of the ego comes from the challenge of the far away.
The more arduous, the more torturous, the more difficult an
achievement is, the more the mind becomes fascinated. It is ready
to go to the farthest star, not even bothering what it is going to get
there; that is irrelevant.
I remember a remark by Edmund Hillary, who was the first man to
climb Everest, the highest mountain in the Himalayas...
Question 2
BELOVED MASTER,
BEING WITH ‘NOT KNOWING WHAT IS’ SEEMS A BETTER
POINTER NOW, BUT IT IS STILL CONTAMINATED WITH
BECOMING. CAN INSIGHT REALLY STOP THE MOVEMENT OF
BECOMING, OR IS THIS THEORETICAL?
Deva Amrito, the question you have asked is significant for every
seeker on the path. You are asking, ”Being with ‘not knowing what
is’ seems a better pointer now, but it is still contaminated with
becoming. Can insight really stop the movement of becoming, or is
this theoretical?”
First: being is becoming.
They are not two things.
It is the language that creates the fallacy of division. When you see
a river, you don’t really see a river, you see a rivering because the
water is continuously flowing. It is never in a state of being, it
is always in a state of becoming.
You see a tree, you see a child, you see a bud – everything is
always in a state of becoming. But the language has changed verbs
into nouns. It calls flowing water a river. It has forgotten completely
the great insight of Heraclitus, that you cannot step in the same river
twice. Where are you going to find the same river twice...?
Question 1
BELOVED MASTER,
WHEN I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE HERE FOR US AND WE
ARE HERE FOR YOU, I WAS SO TOUCHED BY THE SIMPLICITY
AND THE TRUTH OF IT. IT WENT TO MY HEART LIKE AN ARROW.
OH BELOVED MASTER, IT’S ALL SO DEEP.
Prem Jivan, truth is the most obvious and the most simple thing in
existence. This has created tremendous difficulty – the mind is not
interested in the obvious. The mind is not excited by the simple,
because deep down mind is nothing but your ego, and the
nourishment of the ego comes from the challenge of the far away.
The more arduous, the more torturous, the more difficult an
achievement is, the more the mind becomes fascinated. It is ready
to go to the farthest star, not even bothering what it is going to get
there; that is irrelevant.
I remember a remark by Edmund Hillary, who was the first man to
climb Everest, the highest mountain in the Himalayas...
Question 2
BELOVED MASTER,
BEING WITH ‘NOT KNOWING WHAT IS’ SEEMS A BETTER
POINTER NOW, BUT IT IS STILL CONTAMINATED WITH
BECOMING. CAN INSIGHT REALLY STOP THE MOVEMENT OF
BECOMING, OR IS THIS THEORETICAL?
Deva Amrito, the question you have asked is significant for every
seeker on the path. You are asking, ”Being with ‘not knowing what
is’ seems a better pointer now, but it is still contaminated with
becoming. Can insight really stop the movement of becoming, or is
this theoretical?”
First: being is becoming.
They are not two things.
It is the language that creates the fallacy of division. When you see
a river, you don’t really see a river, you see a rivering because the
water is continuously flowing. It is never in a state of being, it
is always in a state of becoming.
You see a tree, you see a child, you see a bud – everything is
always in a state of becoming. But the language has changed verbs
into nouns. It calls flowing water a river. It has forgotten completely
the great insight of Heraclitus, that you cannot step in the same river
twice. Where are you going to find the same river twice...?
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