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Discourse 9
These Games Keep You Retarded
These Games Keep You Retarded
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25 December 1987 pm in Gautam the Buddha Auditorium
Question 1
BELOVED MASTER,
YOU HAVE NOW BEEN ENLIGHTENED FOR ALMOST THIRTY-SIX
YEARS. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE BEYOND THE BEYOND THE
BEYOND?
P.S. CAN I MEET YOU IN THE PUB AFTERWARDS?
Vimal, it seems you have taken too much drink, because we are in
the pub! This place can only be described as belonging to those
who are drunk with the divine... so drunk that they have forgotten
their nationality, forgotten their church, forgotten even who they are.
Vimal is asking me if I can meet him afterwards in the pub, but
beyond this pub there is no other place so drunk with the divine
dance and song. What I am teaching you is to find a source within
yourself which can make you a drunkard.
The joy of this life, the bliss, the ecstasy, belongs only to those
whose wine is not coming from the outside – that is very ephemeral,
very temporal, made of the same stuff as dreams are made of.
There is another wine which grows within you. The moment you start
moving inwards, there is no need for anything else to make you
oblivious to all the misery that surrounds you. There is no need
for any other drug.
A few idiots in the West have started calling a drug ”ecstasy.” Now
that is absolutely against all the laws of the world, because ecstasy
has been for centuries copyrighted by my people! ....
Question 2
BELOVED MASTER,
HAS JESUS EVER LAUGHED?
IRVEN N. RESNICH REPORTS ON THE CONTROVERSY BETWEEN
PHILOSOPHY AND THEOLOGY ABOUT LAUGHTER:
ARISTOTLE, IN HIS SECOND BOOK OF POETICS, RAISED
LAUGHTER TO THE STANDARD OF AN ART, WHEREAS
CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY HAS BEEN AGAINST LAUGHTER SINCE
THE DAYS OF THE BIBLE. FOR MONKS, A LIFE OF PENANCE
DOES NOT ALLOW LAUGHTER.
BASILIUS CAESAREA AND HUGO OF ST. VICTOR TOTALLY
CONDEMNED LAUGHTER; IN SOME MONASTERIES IT WAS ONLY
TOLERATED IF IT DID NOT SPREAD.
THE QUESTION CAME UP OF WHETHER LAUGHTER DARKENED
THE HUMAN NATURE OF JESUS. ACCORDING TO CHRISTIAN
TRADITION, JESUS HIMSELF NEVER LAUGHED, ALTHOUGH THE
PHILOSOPHICAL TRADITIONS OF ARISTOTLE, QUINTILLIAN,
PORPHYRY AND BOETHIUS, EMPHASIZE THAT LAUGHTER IS A
TYPICALLY HUMAN ABILITY.
THE CLERGYMEN GAVE VARIOUS ANSWERS, BUT MANY OF
THEM POINTED OUT THAT A LOT OF SAINTS HAD NEVER
LAUGHED EITHER, AND THAT JESUS, AS A HUMAN BEING, WAS
OF COURSE ABLE TO LAUGH, BUT HE VOLUNTARILY
RENOUNCED IT. NOT A THEOLOGICALLY SATISFYING SOLUTION.
Doctor Amrito, only on one point do I agree with Christian tradition:
Jesus certainly never laughed.
As far as I can see, he had nothing to laugh at.
First, he is a bastard. Others may have laughed, but you cannot
expect Jesus to laugh. Jesus was a poor carpenter, undernourished
– laughter needs some overflowing energy. And to look at Jesus’
statements – he seems to be a crackpot. Crackpots never laugh.
They have to keep their seriousness. Laughter brings you down to
the status of ordinary humanity. Those who want to
pretend to be special – how can they laugh? Such a mundane
activity....
Question 1
BELOVED MASTER,
YOU HAVE NOW BEEN ENLIGHTENED FOR ALMOST THIRTY-SIX
YEARS. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE BEYOND THE BEYOND THE
BEYOND?
P.S. CAN I MEET YOU IN THE PUB AFTERWARDS?
Vimal, it seems you have taken too much drink, because we are in
the pub! This place can only be described as belonging to those
who are drunk with the divine... so drunk that they have forgotten
their nationality, forgotten their church, forgotten even who they are.
Vimal is asking me if I can meet him afterwards in the pub, but
beyond this pub there is no other place so drunk with the divine
dance and song. What I am teaching you is to find a source within
yourself which can make you a drunkard.
The joy of this life, the bliss, the ecstasy, belongs only to those
whose wine is not coming from the outside – that is very ephemeral,
very temporal, made of the same stuff as dreams are made of.
There is another wine which grows within you. The moment you start
moving inwards, there is no need for anything else to make you
oblivious to all the misery that surrounds you. There is no need
for any other drug.
A few idiots in the West have started calling a drug ”ecstasy.” Now
that is absolutely against all the laws of the world, because ecstasy
has been for centuries copyrighted by my people! ....
Question 2
BELOVED MASTER,
HAS JESUS EVER LAUGHED?
IRVEN N. RESNICH REPORTS ON THE CONTROVERSY BETWEEN
PHILOSOPHY AND THEOLOGY ABOUT LAUGHTER:
ARISTOTLE, IN HIS SECOND BOOK OF POETICS, RAISED
LAUGHTER TO THE STANDARD OF AN ART, WHEREAS
CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY HAS BEEN AGAINST LAUGHTER SINCE
THE DAYS OF THE BIBLE. FOR MONKS, A LIFE OF PENANCE
DOES NOT ALLOW LAUGHTER.
BASILIUS CAESAREA AND HUGO OF ST. VICTOR TOTALLY
CONDEMNED LAUGHTER; IN SOME MONASTERIES IT WAS ONLY
TOLERATED IF IT DID NOT SPREAD.
THE QUESTION CAME UP OF WHETHER LAUGHTER DARKENED
THE HUMAN NATURE OF JESUS. ACCORDING TO CHRISTIAN
TRADITION, JESUS HIMSELF NEVER LAUGHED, ALTHOUGH THE
PHILOSOPHICAL TRADITIONS OF ARISTOTLE, QUINTILLIAN,
PORPHYRY AND BOETHIUS, EMPHASIZE THAT LAUGHTER IS A
TYPICALLY HUMAN ABILITY.
THE CLERGYMEN GAVE VARIOUS ANSWERS, BUT MANY OF
THEM POINTED OUT THAT A LOT OF SAINTS HAD NEVER
LAUGHED EITHER, AND THAT JESUS, AS A HUMAN BEING, WAS
OF COURSE ABLE TO LAUGH, BUT HE VOLUNTARILY
RENOUNCED IT. NOT A THEOLOGICALLY SATISFYING SOLUTION.
Doctor Amrito, only on one point do I agree with Christian tradition:
Jesus certainly never laughed.
As far as I can see, he had nothing to laugh at.
First, he is a bastard. Others may have laughed, but you cannot
expect Jesus to laugh. Jesus was a poor carpenter, undernourished
– laughter needs some overflowing energy. And to look at Jesus’
statements – he seems to be a crackpot. Crackpots never laugh.
They have to keep their seriousness. Laughter brings you down to
the status of ordinary humanity. Those who want to
pretend to be special – how can they laugh? Such a mundane
activity....
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