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No Water No Moon

talks on Zen stories

by Osho

10 talks given live   Aug. 1974
Pune, India
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    Debate is violence. You can kill through it, you
    cannot revive through it.

    You cannot give life through it, you can murder
    through it. Truths can be murdered through
    debate, but they cannot be resurrected. It is
    violence; the very attitude is violent. Really, you
    are not asking for the truth, you are asking for
    the victory. When victory is the goal, truth will be
    sacrificed. When truth is the goal, you can
    sacrifice victory also.

    And truth should be the goal, not victory,
    because when victory is the goal you are a
    politician, not a religious man. You are
    aggressive, you are trying somehow to overpower
    the other, you are trying somehow to dominate
    and domineer. And truth can never become a
    domination, it can never destroy the other. Truth
    can never be a victory in the sense that you have
    overpowered the other.

    Truth brings humility, humbleness. It is not an
    ego-trip – but all debates are ego-trips. So
    debate can never lead to the real; it always leads
    to the unreal, the untruth, because the very
    phenomenon that you are after, victory, is stupid.
    Truth wins, not you, not I. In discussion you win or
    I win, truth never wins...

                                                    – Osho
                                   No Water, No Moon, ch. 2
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    No Water, No Moon　

    Chinese pinyin:
    Meiyou shui, meiyou yueliang

    Chinese traditional:
    沒有水，沒有月亮

    Chinese simplified:
    没有水，没有月亮
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Discourse 2
Trading Dialogue for Lodging
Discourse 3
Is That So?
Discourse 1
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Discourse 4
The Dead Man’s Answer
Discourse 5
Gutei’s Finger
Discourse 6
Why Don’t You Retire?
Discourse 7
Black-Nosed Buddha
Discourse 8
The Giver Should Be Thankful
Discourse 9
A Philosopher Asks Buddha
Discourse 10
Ninakawa Smiles