Ken Wilbur--People in Osho's Talks

Question to Osho:

The other day you spoke about Fritjof Capra. Can you
speak about the movement of transpersonal
psychology, and in particular about the work and
meditation of Ken Wilbur, who is said to be the founder
of the '"spectrum psychology?"

Osho's response:

The first thing to be understood is that I am not dealing
with psychology. Psychology remains attached to the
mind; it is the science of the mind. And my whole work is
how to take you out of the mind, so these people will
take me as if I am their enemy.

They are working out how the mind functions, whether it
is personal or interpersonal, what are its conditionings
and how those conditionings can be changed with new
conditionings. Their whole work – whether they call it
interpersonal psychology or spectrum psychology –
remains confined to the mind. And my world, the world
of Zen, is the world of no-mind.

We simply don't want to bother about all the rubbish
that mind is carrying from centuries. If you get involved
in it, you can go on digging and digging, and you will
find more bullshit coming out. It is better just to take a
jump out of it; it is not you. It is the whole conditioning of
mankind, from generation to generation. Every mind
concept has traveled to you, and it is becoming thicker
and thicker every day. As time passes, you have a
thicker mind, and meditation becomes more difficult.

These people are not concerned with meditation at all,
hence there is no question of their being here.
Secondly, they think they have found the answer.
Obviously, a person who thinks he has found the
answer will not go seeking the truth anywhere, but will
remain confined in his own imagination...

--Osho
The Zen Manifesto: Freedom From Oneself, ch. 10